I'd also note that googling Gerald Schroeder turns out the fact that he is an Orthodox Jew. there is nothing here that supports the idea that the universe was started with a particular intent by a conscious, intelligent, entity. The points on the slide do not describe a person at all. The biblical god is a person who does things with purpose. If this is true then asking what came before the universe does not actually make any sense. In any case in at least some cosmological models the start of the universe is the start of time, there is no before. The Idea that the laws of caused anything does not make any kind of sense. They don't they developed together.Īlso the I'd go further and point out that the rules of chess to not cause chess to be played. Its like saying that the rules of chess predate the game of chess. There is no justification for this statement and indeed it does not really make sense. Im a human volunteer content transcriber and you could be too If youd like more information on what we do and why we do it, click here After the pandemic Ive been conditioned to read 'WHO' as the 'World Health Organization. they are a model a way of mathematically aproximating what the real physical system will do.Īlso at the beginning of it all we have a sigularity a point where the laws that we know break down. Checkmate atheist, go check if your presents evolved under your sciencemas tree. No the laws of nature are our understanding of how the universe works. You know, the whole thing about Jesus not existing is considered Ancient-Aliens-level bullshit by historians. There is a beginning therefore god? No that is not a valid jump. Must have tools and links for /r/atheism usersĬommunity submitted images used by r/atheism r/atheism IRC channel r/atheism Discord Server FiltersĬlick the squares below to filter /r/atheism to specific topics or submission types The premise is misconstrued, as theres no real reason to say that the universe must have a cause, since the laws of causality do not necessarily apply outside the universe. Recommended: Reading, Kids Reading, Viewing, and Listening. The argument goes that because everything has a cause or a start, the universe must have a cause, and for some reason this is taken to be a personal creator god. Check our FAQ and WIKI Are you planning to: Read before posting: Subreddit CommandmentsĤ - All Images must be in a Self/Text post.ħ - Follow reddit's rules. All topics related to atheism, agnosticism and secular living are welcome. Welcome to r/atheism, the web's largest atheist forum. Welcome to r/atheism, please read our Rules, & our FAQ! Thinking of telling your parents? Read this first.
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